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How an Outgoing Introvert Can Become a Leader

Since 2011, I’ve been a John Maxwell Team member. And while I haven’t been able to use the skills directly that I have learned from the group, there’s definitely one thing that has serviced me.

It’s a great way to network and meet all kinds of interesting people who have chosen to make John’s work part of their arsenal of ways they can help people.

In this post (which was one that I made soon after I was “officially certified” as a member of the team), I talk about what it takes for someone who isn’t traditionally considered a typical “people person” (an introvert) to become a leader.

Funny enough, it’s not as hard as you’d think!

-JC

Growing Up an Outgoing Introvert

Us introverts, we’re an interesting bunch. We like to think deep and hard about things and, for the most part, we like people – but we don’t want to deal with them all day.

At least that’s what the classical definition would say about us.

Growing up I was an only child – so I don’t know if my introversion was nature or nurtured.

But one thing has always been the same. I was always outgoing. Talking with just about anyone – when needed.

Usually it was about things I had learned that might apply in their life. I never was one for casual talk – so many times I jumped right into the middle of the conversation. (Yeah… about that!)

Be it knowledge I had learned about technology, art, through TV shows, in college, or now in business, I’ve wanted to help where I could.

One movie that I recently watched and totally connected with me was The King’s Speech. I guess you could say it’s the inspiration for this post.

If you’re not familiar with it, here’s the trailer:

Make it a Commitment

So the basis of the movie is about George VI being a leader of a country and having to address the company on radio. The problem is, he was essentially scared of his own shadow.

But he had to do what he was going to do (learn to give a proper speech and not fumble all over it) and so he set out on getting comfortable with that shadow.

He committed to his task.

The first thing you need to do is start by realizing that this is something you’re going to want to do. It’s one thing to say “Oh, I’m going to be successful because lots of people are going to pay attention to what I have to say”, but it’s quite another actually getting to that point.

Becoming a leader, whether you’re an extrovert or an introvert doesn’t happen by chance. You have to make an effort to get there.

 

Improve Your Interpersonal Skills

Art of Charm has been one of my favorite podcasts for a long time because I feel that the host, Jordan Harbinger, is an introvert in disguise. On his show he talks about a number of issues that us introverts have to learn about because we don’t naturally have skills to deal with them.

In his story, he says that he learned that the fastest way to get what you want in life is being a relationship builder. For many of us introverts, we have no idea that this is an actual skill we can use to our own benefit because we’re either too preoccupied by building our own skillsets or we’re just straight out grinding away hoping that our break (whatever that looks like) will come.

So learn to initiate conversation and when you do, pay attention and listen. Instead of thinking about what you’re going to say next or cutting them off in mid paragraph (or mid thought!!), let them say what they need to. Pauses are only awkward if you make them. 😉

Also, remember as an introvert, you probably have great empathy and understanding of others. If a conflict in your group arises, do the opposite of what you’d naturally want to do (avoid the situation) and deal with it.

Remember, people don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care.

 

Get Comfortable Taking Small Risks

One thing that I’ve had to get better at over time is getting better at getting out of my comfort zone. As introverts, our comfort zone is fairly small.

We’re used to hanging out with our close friends and family. But when we go beyond that, we start to panic a bit. We need to get over that. (I did by making 100 cold calls a week at one point!)

We love being as perfect and professional as possible at work. It prevents us from being recognized or sticking out too much. That’s something else you’re going to have to get over. Learn how to suggest and implement bold yet carefully researched actions. Sometimes those actions might not work out – but at least we learn from the failure and make it better next time!

Here’s the thing: leaders stick out. That’s what makes them a leader. If they’re a good leader, they’re going to be leading others from the front!

 

Rely on What You Know

If you’re like most introverts, you’re probably a geek in something. Whether it’s technology or some form of creative work, you need to use that to your advantage.

For me, I’m a tech geek – I have been for most of my life. I’ve always been the guy that my friends and family would go to for help with their gadgets and computers – either to help them figure something out or “help them” fix it.

Therefore, growing up talking to them through AoL Instant Messenger about how to do something became commonplace. Maybe the same is true for you?

Heck – I got to a point where some things were so common for me to describe that I’d make documents describing how to do things just in case I had to show someone else.

Today I do similar work through platforms like Slack, Facebook Messenger, and Google Docs to keep it all straight!

Maybe there’s a few platforms you’re already comfortable with so you can use it to make yourself more effective?

 

Develop Your Three Layers Of Confidence

Many people talk about faking it until you make it. But the truth is, that could be really bad advice for some people. Another piece of potentially bad advice? Oh, just act yourself! Yeah, sometimes acting yourself isn’t going to work in all situations. Sometimes you have to act a certain way with one group of people but if you’re with another group, you’d act completely different.

What makes those groups different is more than likely you’re own confidence. With your friends, you’re going to seem very outgoing and be mistaken for an extrovert.

But if you’re at a networking meeting or drawn into give a speech, you might seem like a fish out of water.

You need to develop your three layers of confidence:

  1. Surface
  2. Lifestyle
  3. Core

Here’s a video from Matthew Hussey on what these actually mean:

Update: And, if you’d like, here’s a recent talk of his at a Lewis Howes’ event going a bit deeper with the topic:

Share Your Vision Early On:

If you’re already in a leadership position, make sure you share your vision with those that are following (or simply engaging with) you from time to time.

You don’t want to surprise your group with what you really wanted when the project is going or even worse, when it’s about to be complete.

They say that a man without vision shall perish – well, the same could be said for a group of people as well. You plan with the end in mind, make sure you bring your group members in on what the plan is and, better yet, involve them in making the plans as well so you don’t have to do all the heavy lifting!

Action Steps:

So what’s next? Well, I’d start with what Matthew talks about in that video – work on your three levels of confidence whatever that looks like to you. You need to start practicing the person you want to be like so you’re actually them!

After that, if you’re not already in a leader position, plug into a group that you actually enjoy building and helping with. The more you put into the group, the more likely you’re going to get a leadership position through that group.

At that point, whatever else you’re doing will be recognized as well. And you might have your own followers at that point, too!

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Starting a Podcast Case Study: How I Went from Interviewing Friends to Well Known Creators in 50 Sessions

When starting a podcast, many first time podcasters might be thinking somewhere in the back of their minds, “Who am I to start a show? There are so many other people out there who do this better than I do”.

And my response would be something like, “Sure, there are people who make great shows. Chances are your show isn’t going to be as great as theirs from the get go.”

And then I continue…

“However, if you get started, stay the course, and have good guests on, you’ll get there quicker than you might expect.”

At some point in every entrepreneur’s career, there comes times of doubt, delay, and division. But there are ways of tackling those head on.

If you’re serious about making a great show, one thing that will definitely help boost your popularity is having recognized people on your show as guests.

Today I’m going to share with you how I went from interviewing friends to interviewing recognized experts in their field that will give you credibility as you build your show.

 

How I Used the New Craft Practitioner Approach to Get Well Known Guests

As you can see below, I have an upward climb in listenership since I started the show in September of 2015.

Here’s a current snapshot of my show’s growth over its existence. I’m proud to say that there is some pretty normal growth there.

Podcast Growth (May 2017)

Growth of Angles of Lattitude Podcast as of May 2017

There have been 4 guests that have been on that have had the most attraction: Ashley Zahabian, Drew Badger, Cam Adair, and Dane Maxwell. All four of those episodes continue to perform well.

Also, from those interviews, I’ve been able to land interviews with other guests, and even have testimonials from those guests.

cam adair

 

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Both of these have been vital in helping my podcast and brand grow.

But – here’s the thing.

You can do the same thing for your show… even if you don’t know these people yet.

 

Four Steps to Get Great Guests

There are four options a New Craft Practitioner can use to get great guests on their podcast.

  1. Start with what you Have
  2. Add Value & Add-a-Friend
  3. Ask a Friend for an Introduction
  4. Just Be Friendly

The reason I call this approach the New Craft Practitioner Approach is because these are options that anyone who is starting a new craft can utilize. They’re just poking around and seeing what opens up their new path.

In this case, your new craft is podcasting. And, as a practitioner, while you’re not an expert, you’re highly engaged in learning the craft and experimenting to see what works best for you.

Start with what You Have

At the beginning, you just have to take action. Some call it taking dumb action.

Just get started.

But if you want an idea of what you could do, find a podcast (or better yet, a couple) you want to emulate and use it as a framework. What do they do for the actual conversation part of the show, what kind of artwork does it have (if any) and what kind of guests does it have?

You’ll need to create your own versions of those things.

Do you want to have co-hosts?

I did. (But I soon had to change how many due to scheduling headaches.) For me, I knew I had to start with doing sessions with people I already knew. I knew both Jon Ridge and Brian from all my years in school. And Trin was one of the first people I met in Fizzle when I started my new journey of building New Inceptions.

If you do start with a team, this might be the kind of group that you start with as well. Like friends from high school, don’t be upset if they eventually go their different ways.

Life happens to all of us and it’s just part of growing.

 

Add Value to New Friends:

Just like I went different ways with the people I went to high school with, I knew that for me to grow my show, I had to continue to meet more and more people.

Easiest way to do that? Hop on Facebook and start adding friends.

There’s a good way to do that and a not so great way. The not so great way is just adding random people by clicking “add friend”. I can’t tell you how many people who have sent me a friend request without sending at least a message introducing themselves. Don’t be That Guy.

Instead, make your mission one where you “add value”.

Now, I know this phrase is used around on the net pretty regularly and with very little substance.

So let’s try and define it.

Well, to me, adding value basically means helping people out with their questions and problems through Facebook groups (1 – 999 members) and mega groups (1000+).

A couple of weeks ago I posted about the groups that I like to visit.

I can add value to the folks in all of these groups – just by answering questions where I can.

And that’s also why I’m focused on just 6 – because if you have many more, you’re going to be stuck answering questions all day as opposed to what you should be doing in building your business.

After a few engagements back and forth, it’s totally fine to add people as friends on Facebook.

I mean, there’s a reason why there’s a limit of 5000 friends!!

Eventually, with that new friend – ask them if they want to be on the show. You’d be surprised how easy it is to approach people this way.

I used this method to land Cam and Drew on the show.

 

Ask a Friend for an Intro

If one of these friends you have is friends with someone you’d like to have on a show, see if they can make an introduction.

As I’ve mentioned in the past, this is how I landed the interview with Dane. Daniel and I were just discussing life and had a little bit of one on one with him and it just came to me to have Daniel ask.

He did and voila – we booked a date to do Dane’s first interview as a musician.

However, that said, don’t go “making friends” with people just so you can use them to connect with “higher” people. Not only will that person feel like you used them, but you might be eliminating any further connections you might get with them.

Through Cam, I’ve landed about 4 different interviews. One of which was Ginger, who later became a co-host of the show.

 

Just Be Friendly

Another way to invite folks on the show from Facebook is to simply send them a cold message and see if they’d be interested in coming on.

This worked for me when I invited Ashley on the show. Here’s the messages I sent her:

ashley zahabian chat

Sometimes you just have to reach out!

Something to note is that I had to follow up with that initial email a couple of times. Actually took about a month to get her booked and on the show after all was said and done. I had to ask her what her email was to make sure it was going through. Even after that, I had to keep nudging her assistant.

So be patient and don’t be afraid to communicate.

 

Action Steps:

You can see how the snowball just starts to roll.

I hope you can see yourself using this approach as you’re beginning.

Yes, it takes hard work and especially TIME to create something great.

But with this approach you now have a method to start lining up those future guests ahead of time. Also using this approach, while slower than using guest finding services, is a foolproof way of building your following as well as your credibility. You’re not buying fake credibility here. You’re actually making it yourself from scratch!

Remember, this approach can be used in building other entrepreneurial skills. Just remember to start with what you got

If you’d like to tap into my ever growing network, I’d love to have you part of it.

Join us at the AoL Networking Group on Facebook here and introduce yourself to the group!

 

Bonus:

As of this post, Ashley is officially a TEDx speaker.

Check it out her presentation below and don’t forget to check out her AoL interview!

Jesse Winton: Making Movies, Millennials, and Learning to Mind the Gap (AoL 066)

People will come up with a million excuses not to do something. But it takes one good one – one why – to actually go and accomplish a big lofty goal.

Case in point – Jesse Winton, had never made a movie before. But yet, his first one, made it national.

Sure, he could have psyched himself out by saying that his goal was unattainable, but instead, he chose to kick those thoughts to the side and go after this goal.

In this session, learn from Jesse how he was able to get his idea off the ground, what his perception of Millennials are when it comes to how they’re viewed, and how he handles discomfort during the middle of a project – aka The Gap.

Enjoy!

SPECIFICALLY, YOU’LL FIND OUT MORE ABOUT:

  • How did his homeschooling background contribute to where he’s at now? 6:01
  • Were his parents supportive of his aspirations? 8:07
  • What kind of specific knowledge or training did he have to get his ‘Targeted’ off the ground? 11:16
  • Jesse’s perception of Millennials vs what others view them as. 15:34
  • How do we convert more Millennials to become creatives? 21:03
  • What sparked Jesse to create the film? 25:07
  • Why Jesse identifies with Libertarians. 28:27
  • Why did Jesse create Wintons Motion Pictures? 33:00
  • What goes into preparing for pitch meetings? 35:34
  • How Jesse went national with his documentary. 31:33
  • Was there any fear in reaching out to influencers? 42:29
  • How did Jesse and his dad find interviewees for the documentary? 46:26
  • How does he handle discomfort that comes up during the middle of a project? 51:57
  • What’s coming next for Jesse? 58:50
  • Who are three influencers that have helped him get to where he is today? 1:01:17
  • Top Favorite Books that he recommends 1:02:22
  • Smallest decision he’s made that has had the largest impact on his life 1:03:18
  • What is one thing that all high school students must know… even if it involves Dane Maxwell. 1:04:08
  • What’s it mean to live a life of abundance? 1:06:14
  • What can people do to live an inspired life? 1:07:15
  • … and MUCH more!

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ITEMS and PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

SHOW NOTE EXTRAS:

Targeted DVD Promo:

Interview with Glenn Beck:

Interview with Perry Atkinson via theDoveTV:

The Gap by Ira Glass:

Jesse’s mad skills on the Fiddle:

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Thank You For Sharing Some Time With Us!

Thanks so much for joining us again this week. Have some feedback you’d like to share? Leave a note in the comment section below!

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Stephanie Calahan: Overcoming Mental Blocks, Making Complex Decisions Simple, and Becoming a Business Vision Catalyst (AoL 065)

You can easily get in your own way when it comes to the success of your business. Certain mindsets that you have about the world around you can make all the difference in how well your business performs. Making all your decisions super complex doesn’t help either.

In today’s show, Stephanie Calahan joins Daniel and JC to look at some of those mental blocks that many of us have – including visibility and money blocks.

We also go in depth about using a resentment test to make complex decisions simple.

If you’ve already started your business and you feel overwhelmed, or you want to make building your future business a bit easier, then I really think you’ll get a lot from this particular chat.

Enjoy!

SPECIFICALLY, YOU’LL FIND OUT MORE ABOUT:

  • What did Stephanie major in college? 6:48
  • What was her first job after college? 8:29
  • What prompted her to start her first business? 12:56
  • When she started Calahan solutions, what did she bring with her? 16:24
  • What are some of the fastest changes she’s seen in working with the small businesses she does? 18:33
  • Who was her first client and what was her experience like? 21:28
  • What does working with mindset means to her and what kind of things change after a mental shift? 22:29
  • What’s a money block and a visibility block? 26:10
  • Is there a general process to get through money blocks and why is it important? 28:10
  • How did Stephanie get through her money block? 31:28
  • What is the resentment test and how can you use it to help make decisions? 32:43
  • How clarity come into play with the resentment test. 40:46
  • What’s the process of finding an ideal client? 42:20
  • How does she manager her business systems? 50:16
  • Items that she’s working on in the upcoming year. 53:42
  • What does her ideal client look like and what does it take for them to work with her? 54:43
  • One gift Stephanie likes giving others. 58:22
  • What she would do if she woke up as her 10 year old self and had all her memories. 58:31
  • How can someone be a difference maker in their community? 59:28
  • Who’s the most awe inspiring person she’s met and why? 59:51
  • What’s it mean to live a life of abundance? 1:02:35
  • … and MUCH more!

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ITEMS and PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

SHOW NOTE EXTRAS:

Interview with Lany Sullivan

Are Visibility Blocks Stopping Your Messages From Getting Out?

Blog Links:
Visibility Blocks that Keep You From Having a Great Podcast

Do You Have the Courage to Release the Familiar and Claim Your Power?

 

Thank You For Sharing Some Time With Us!

Thanks so much for joining us again this week. Have some feedback you’d like to share? Leave a note in the comment section below!

If you enjoyed this episode, please share it using the social media buttons you see at the top of the post.

Also, please leave an honest review for The AoL Podcast on iTunes! Ratings and reviews are extremely helpful and greatly appreciated! They do matter in the rankings of the show, and we read each and every one of them.

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Make a Difference in the World: Or The Answer to “What Should I Do in Life?”

still don't know what to be when i grow upI just saw this question posted on reddit.

It’s a question that I keep hearing on there repeatedly and I’ve probably answered it in a number of ways this past year.

So instead of just going down the typical trail of answering his or her question specifically, I’m going to kind of do a blanket answer. Hopefully it will help more people that are searching for the answer of this specific question.

How to Make a Difference In the World:

When people ask the question, “What should I do?”, they’re looking at the world from a perspective of this is how the world is.

Society, in general, has taught us to see it that way. From our early days in school we’re taught to follow, not lead.

Here’s the thing, everyone that has some form of success out there has done it through their own conviction.

They believed that they could have an impact on the world.

“Don’t spend your precious time asking ‘Why isn’t the world a better place?’ It will only be time wasted. The question to ask is ‘How can I make it better?’ To that there is an answer.” – Leo F. Buscaglia

 

The question that people are really asking when they ask “What should I Do?” is “How do I fit?”

The answer to that question is simpler.

You fit in where you’re adding value to others and getting rewarded for that value.

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First Step in Adding Value to Others: Find Your Worth

In my interview with Dane Maxwell, one of the things that we talked about was the fact that so many people don’t know their own worth.

And I’m not talking monetarily here. I’m simply talking about how people don’t see how they actually fit in. Their meaning – their purpose.

If you look at Dane today, for example, you’d see him as someone who has built 16 different businesses, is a millionaire with those businesses, has taught others to do the same, and is now becoming a musician. You’d see that he has meaning and he has a purpose.

One might even question why he’s leaving all that success behind to do the music thing. Well, through doing the Foundation the last few years, he’s realized that people struggle more with their worth than they do with starting a business.

Realistically, if you don’t know you have worth, how can you start a business?

How Do You Find Your Worth?

In our interview, he also talks about how people can find their worth. He said that the way you find your worth is learn how to articulate your emotions. That you need to explore the areas in your psyche that make you stress out regularly. So much so that you should be tearing up when these things are coming to your mind.

Find out why those things make you stress out.

Emotionally, I think that’s great advice. If you feel that you don’t have ANY worth, than that’s where you need to start.

But if you do feel like you have worth, but you’re not sure where at exactly, I personally think that the way you find your worth is by figuring out how you can add value to people.

So let’s look at that a bit.

Adding Value to Others:

Feeling like you’re needed by adding value to others is one of the most rewarding feelings you can have. It’s when you know you fit.

Whether or not you start your own business, you can add value to others at any time. As long as you’re getting recognized for your contribution (through being paid or other means), it means there’s a great give and take relationship there between those you’re helping.

If you’re having problems figuring out how you can add value to people in a way that’s meaningful to you, then I’d remember the three P’s.

  • Passion
  • Purpose
  • Process

When you have a true Passion to do something, then you’re going to stick to it no matter what. You’re more likely to do the parts that you love to do as well as those parts that you dislike. If you’re a business owner, you can later pass those parts on to someone else!!

Later, as you find more of how you fit into the world around you, be it offline or online, you’ll find that you have a Purpose. That people have a distinct reason for remembering what you’re about and you identify with that identity they give you.

Hopefully it’s a purpose you’re proud of.

Finally, as you have found your passion and purpose (sometimes it’s the other way around), you start to separate yourself from the rest of the pack by your process. There’s just something that you do and the way you do it that vibes with those around you.

Case in point, I have a mechanic friend who loves to work with his hands. He has always been a hands on person and can do just about anything around the house.

When he started working on cars earlier in his life, he had a natural knack for it. And today, even though he doesn’t have his own shop, he’s found a purpose where he knows he can help others do something they can’t do. During this time he’s also training new mechanics AND he has a great process – he has his clients buy the part (if possible) and has you pay by the job, not the hour. So it’s in his best interest to get the job done right the first time and quickly!

Take Action: Finding Your Value

Ok, so now you know the importance of why you should add value to others. But how do you find what your own value is??

There’s multiple ways. One way is find out what your strengths (StrengthFinders 2.0) are and what makes you standout (Standout). Then think of positions that would utilize those skills.

But a really quick way that you can get started is to answer this question:

What are 20 (total) jobs and/or types of businesses that you’ve thought would be interesting to do sometime in your life?

This list can be anything from being a police officer to being a farmer. You can use as much detail as you’d like.

Also, don’t let money be a barrier. Even monks can monetize what they do.

What’s In Your List?

In case you were wondering, my list looked like this:

  1. Professor
  2. World Traveler
  3. Police Officer
  4. Pastor
  5. Talk Radio host
  6. Business Consultant
  7. Professional Speaker
  8. Dirty Jobs reboot host
  9. Interviewer
  10. Graphic Designer
  11. Politician
  12. Technical Consultant
  13. Uber Driver
  14. High School teacher
  15. Engineer
  16. Organizational Behaviorist
  17. Dog Behaviorist and Trainer
  18. Video game designer
  19. App designer
  20. Photographer
  21. Camera man

The reason you want to have 20 is so that you can allow extremes and have an exhaustive list. You’ll start noticing a trend or pattern in some of your items that you might be able to combine into one piece.

Is it a job that you can find that utilizes that theme? Or could it be better done with a business?

Those of you who have been following me for awhile, probably have realized I’m implementing several of mine from my list into New Inceptions and the podcast!

If you can’t think of many ideas, then you might want to get the books I linked already – then come up with a list that utilizes those skills.

Once you create that list, and you don’t notice a trend for yourself, or have problems making the list AFTER getting the books – use the contact button in the menu and send us your list. We’ll help you think of something!

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The 4 Levels of Learning – The Secret to Hacking New Skills

McDonald’s just mentioned this past week that they’re going to be introducing automation to their restaurants in a big way this next year.

I shared it on Facebook and the overwhelming thought process is that the world is moving to a more and more automated society.What does this mean for people who work the jobs that are affected by automation?

Well, here in Indiana, it’s meant that many of those displaced workers have had to go to school and get taught a new set of skills for a changing economy.

In this post, I’m going to share with you the 4 Levels of Learning and how we all should navigate them to master our new skills.

Why This is Important

You might be thinking, “JC, I know if I know something or not. Why do I need labels?”. The truth is that you might not need labels.

But some of us – me included – want to decipher the world that’s going on around us. I like to categorize people by their personalities, their strengths, their age, and their education level because I know that each one of those things will tell me a little about where they’re coming from.

That’s just one example of breaking down a complex system into smaller ones. It helps me relieve stress in trying to figure out where people are coming from. With those labels, I kind of know what to expect.

Same thing is true when it comes to labeling where you are in your learning journey. It helps you realize where you are in your process so you know whether or not you have more things to learn or if you’re ready to help other people know what you know – if that’s your type of thing. 🙂

So, let’s get started:

Level 1: A grandson getting to see what biking is all about.

Level 1: Unconscious Incompetence

Do you remember the first time that you found out that something existed and you had to find out more about it? Probably not. When was the last time? Probably today, huh?

That state that you were in before you found out that thing existed was you being unconsciously incompetent. In other words, you didn’t know what you didn’t know.

In this state, you might have a sense of wonder, awe, and excitement – just like the grandson in the image to the right.

 

Level 2: Starting out on his first bike ride

Level 2: Conscious Incompetence

Ok, so you know this entire new world exists now of this new thing. Let’s say it’s riding a bike.

You might have seen all the big kids do it in your neighborhood. Heck, they might have been doing tricks on them.

As you start trying to start to ride a bike, you realize that you can’t even keep the damn thing up – let alone jump.

There’s just so much to learn and to do.

The thing with this phase is to know that you’re going to suck for awhile. You might even hate it and stress out a bit.

Learning to pedal and steer on training wheels all the way up to learning to keep balance. These were all things we had to learn to ride.

But in retrospect as someone who’s learned to ride now, you realize that you needed to “embrace the suck” in learning to ride a bike.

How many times did you fall off your bike when you were learning to just ride it?

I know I started laughing so hard everytime I fell off. I didn’t know what hurt more – my chest from laughing or my stomach from getting hit from the handlebars! 🙂

 

Level 3: A more seasoned vet saves himself from a spill.

Level 3: Conscious Competence

After enough practice, things to get a bit more fun. You’ll begin to realize that you know the basics of what you’re doing and you’re aware of what’s going on.

When I was learning to ride my bike, I didn’t really care about doing jumps. I just wanted to learn to ride FAST! Once I figured that out, I then wanted to get better at using my gears to get up hills better. Later, as I picked up riding again in college, it was going down small stairs and popping small hops to get on sidewalks.

In your situation, it might take you a shorter time than a year plus to figure out your new skill. It might take you more time. Again, it depends on how often you practice your skill (once a week vs 10 days straight) and how focused you are when you’re doing it.

 

Level 4: A young master working on his craft.

Level 4: Unconscious Competence

By the time you reach level 4, you’ve hit a certain level of mastery of the skill. You might not have everything down, but you’ve learned enough that new people are coming to you because you just seem to have the answers. Your skill is really just a part of who you are at this point.

In the biking example, I can think of the process it took me to learn how to ride, but that process was over many years as I needed to learn bits here and there. As I was learning them, I wasn’t thinking of the process it took me to get to that point.

All masters have this problem.

That’s why I say you should make it a usual practice to meet and engage with people who are just one or two steps ahead of you. They can teach you things better than if you were talking with a master. In fact, that’s exactly why, I’ve had to tune out Pat and other experts more recently. It’s not that I don’t think they know what they’re talking about. It’s simply that they’re so far up in their experience that they’ve gone into what I call “professor mode”. Thankfully Pat still explains things now in 2016 like he always has, but I’d really like to be talking to 2011 Pat as he was discovering things that I’m discovering myself today. Thankfully that Pat is still available in the archives (via the Wayback Machine.)

Bonus! Level 5: Shared Competence

You might have heard that the quickest and easiest way to learn something is to try and teach it to someone else. I heard this all the time as I was going through college and it wasn’t really until my first time as a lab TA that I found out what this really meant. I was used to teaching my friends who were closer to me in skill, but when it came to teaching freshman students, wow – there was definitely a difference!

If you are trying to become an expert in a field or someone who is trying to teach to others how to do something, you’re going to have to break down what you already know into steps your audience can follow. The higher your expertise, the trickier that’s going to become.

That’s why the best way to do it is to think of a transformation you want someone to go through and then make a 5 to 7 step process that they’ll make that transformation in.

That way, you’ll have it in small enough bites that the new person doesn’t get mind blown by all there is to know and you’ll be able to keep on eye on their progression easier.

How would you teach someone to ride a bike? What would those 5 steps be?

Action Steps:

So I hope that this process gives you a little more of an understanding of where you are in learning your new skill in whatever it is that you’re learning to do.

I think if you know that these are all part of doing something new, then you’ll probably have less stress about the small stuff… (unless you’re in engineering in college. Than it’s always going to suck until you graduate! Lol. jk!) Having less stress about learning something new will empower you to embrace who you are even more and just take things in stride a bit more.

Below I’d love to hear from you guys where you’re at in your journey of learning a new skill. Have you learned to embrace the suck? Do you find it hard to explain certain things to newbies? Let me know!

Drew Badger: Touring Alaska and Teaching English by Rejecting the Menu (AoL 059)

It seems that most everyone in the world wants to be a part of modern western culture in one way or another. I don’t think you can go far in most big cities in the world without seeing a McDonald’s or Burger King.

That said, traveling abroad shouldn’t be this big scary thing anymore – especially if you’re American.

There seems to be hundreds of books, podcasts, courses, shows and instagram accounts about travel and learning to speak other languages. But for so many people, it still seems unobtainable. To actually get out and move around the world and explore.

Today’s guest, Drew Badger, is all about getting out of the norm. In fact, that’s how he’s lived his life for quite awhile now.

Having grown up in the midwest and going to Japan as soon as he could, he’s done something that many only dream of doing.

But he didn’t stop there. He’s always looking to do more outside of the norm – rejecting the menu.

So that’s what we talk about in this session. The ideas and influences he had as he was growing up that made him go live a life of adventure.

We also talk a bit about how he started English Anyone, and how he’s been able to make the brand as successful as it is.

Enjoy, and thanks for listening.

SPECIFICALLY, YOU’LL FIND OUT MORE ABOUT:

  • Where did he get his entrepreneurial know how from early on? 10:00
  • What was the some of biggest game changers in his business? 19:21
  • How he got paid to take a tour of Alaska. 25:15
  • How can people get out of their own box to see what’s really available to them? 28:26
  • How did a guy who grew up in Chicago end up living in Japan? 35:05
  • How he did Drew go from teaching English in person to doing it on YouTube? 44:36
  • What does he contribute to his success on YouTube? 55:17
  • What his really cool upcoming language app is all about. 1:01:56
  • Who are three influencial teachers in his life? 1:05:36
  • One gift he likes giving others. 1:08:26
  • What is something he used to believe as a 30 year old and now knows is wrong and why? 1:09:30
  • What is one thing under $100 that has changed his life? 1:11:44
  • What does it mean to live a life of abundance? 1:13:15
  • … and MUCH more!
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